{"id":355,"date":"2022-11-15T04:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-11-15T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/go.southernct.edu\/realtalk\/captivate-podcast\/changing-or-unchangeable-the-building-blocks-of-education-systems"},"modified":"2025-08-24T19:40:03","modified_gmt":"2025-08-24T23:40:03","slug":"changing-or-unchangeable-the-building-blocks-of-education-systems","status":"publish","type":"captivate_podcast","link":"https:\/\/go.southernct.edu\/realtalk\/episodes-list\/changing-or-unchangeable-the-building-blocks-of-education-systems\/","title":{"rendered":"Changing or Unchangeable? 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